{"id":1325,"date":"2015-08-12T14:24:03","date_gmt":"2015-08-12T18:24:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/our-hope.org\/blog\/?p=1325"},"modified":"2015-08-15T11:52:29","modified_gmt":"2015-08-15T15:52:29","slug":"distinction-between-israel-and-the-church-as-an-argument-for-the-pre-trib-rapture","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/our-hope.org\/blog\/2015\/08\/distinction-between-israel-and-the-church-as-an-argument-for-the-pre-trib-rapture\/","title":{"rendered":"Distinction Between Israel and the Church as an Argument for the Pre-Trib Rapture"},"content":{"rendered":"

I am going to try to pick up my blogging again and perhaps speed it up, Lord willing.\u00a0 I plan to do more personal things on Facebook (where my activity has picked up) but more academic\/technical things on our-hope.org.\u00a0 I have been asked to speak at the Pre-Trib Study Group this coming December giving an analysis of Sam Storms’ book Kingdom Come<\/em> which I blogged about a few times.\u00a0 I hope to finish my string of blogs in response to Sam’s points which I had started to do.\u00a0 My paper at the Pre-Trib Study Group will be an expansion of the paper I delivered at the Council on Dispensational Hermeneutics last year.\u00a0 I want to be constructive in my criticism and not bombastic in my disagreements.\u00a0 Please pray for me on this.<\/p>\n

For this blog post, however, my main thought goes ahead to the upcoming Council meeting in September which I advertised in my last blog.\u00a0\u00a0 My presentation is entitled \u201cWhat Do Israel and the Church Share from a Traditional Dispensational Viewpoint?\u201d\u00a0 I want to help traditional dispensationalists do a full-blown theology and not just hammer the distinction between Israel and the Church (which I firmly accept) as a matter of polemics in our debate with replacement theology.\u00a0 In doing this, one area that gives me pause is the constant use by dispensationalists of the distinction between Israel and the Church as a theological switch that provides proof for the pre-trib rapture.\u00a0 This argument would be more plausible if the distinction has been proven to be absolute on other grounds before we get to the rapture question.\u00a0 To be sure, some dispensationalists in the tradition have argued for a pretty absolute distinction by keeping the Church out of the future earthly kingdom.\u00a0 In addition, Lewis Sperry Chafer’s view of two distinct new covenants was at least partly caused by his desire to\u00a0make the Israel-Church dichotomy more absolute.\u00a0 As to the idea that the Church as a heavenly elect will have no part in the future earthly kingdom, this seems to be countered by Luke 19:11-27 and like passages.\u00a0 As to the idea of two new covenants, very few dispensationalists today hold such a view.\u00a0 The book I edited entitled “Dispensational Understanding of the New Covenant”\u00a0shows three views defended, none of which are the two new covenants view.\u00a0 No one showed up to defend this view at the Council when we discussed it.<\/p>\n

Thus, although there are other issues that could be\u00a0discussed here, it would seem that most dispensationalists allow some sharing between Israel and the Church at some point in their overall theology.\u00a0 This brings me to the argument from the distinction\u00a0in favor of a pre-trib rapture (which I hold strongly and have argued for in print\u00a0down through the years).\u00a0 Typically the argument is stated this way:\u00a0 (1) the tribulation period of seven years is noted as a time of Jacob’s trouble (Jer. 30:7), (2) therefore, that time is designed for Israel and not for the Church, (3)\u00a0 hence, the Church has no part\u00a0in the tribulation, (4)\u00a0 the next step is to state how this\u00a0requires a pre-trib rapture.\u00a0 However, there are two issues that must be dealt with in light of this claim.\u00a0 First, the Bible is clear that the tribulation is not just for Israel but for the whole world (Rev. 3:10, cp. Isa. 13:11).\u00a0 Thus, the statement that the tribulation period\u00a0is for Israel because it is a time of Jacob’s trouble must be qualified and not used to limit the scope of who the tribulation targets.<\/p>\n

A second way to look at the problem is to ask about the Church’s role in God’s coming earthly kingdom.\u00a0 If I am right about Church saints ruling on the earth during the millennium (Luke 19) and the new earth in the eternal state (Rev 22:5), this constitutes a sharing of the kingdom by saints from Israel and the Church.\u00a0 Some opponent of the pre-trib argument from distinction might ask why Israel and the Church can share the kingdom but not the tribulation period if their distinctive nature is so crucial to understanding God’s\u00a0dealings with these two institutions.<\/p>\n

In other words, the way that dispensationalists use the distinction between Israel and the Church as a hermeneutical or theological switch to adjudicate other exegetical or theological statements must be looked at more carefully.\u00a0 At this point, I have come to the conclusion that the argument from distinction is a correlative argument.\u00a0 The distinction fits with a pre-trib rapture but it does not logically compel it.\u00a0 Instead, I see the exegetical and theological information flowing mostly out of 1 & 2 Thessalonians, John 14:1-3, and Revelation 3:10 showing us that it is not so much that Israel and the Church are distinct that proves the pre-trib rapture but that God in space and time has sovereignly chosen and designed the Church to be raptured before the beginning of Daniel’s 70th week.\u00a0 I would appreciate any comments as I continue to reflect and work on my paper for the upcoming Council.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

I am going to try to pick up my blogging again and perhaps speed it up, Lord willing.\u00a0 I plan to do more personal things on Facebook (where my activity has picked up) but more academic\/technical things on our-hope.org.\u00a0 I have been asked to speak at the Pre-Trib Study Group this coming December giving an […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[15,16,25],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/our-hope.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1325"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/our-hope.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/our-hope.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/our-hope.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/our-hope.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1325"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"http:\/\/our-hope.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1325\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1334,"href":"http:\/\/our-hope.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1325\/revisions\/1334"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/our-hope.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1325"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/our-hope.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1325"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/our-hope.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1325"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}